Jesus was a real person. jehovah is a ficticious compilation of OT gods dba as "THE Almighty
cameo-d - How concisely put! Is this absolutely brilliant statement your own? Mind if I borrow?
this passage could be used to support trinitarian theology.
from that bastion of scholarly biblical exegesis, the new world translation (.
and the seventh angel blew his trumpet.
Jesus was a real person. jehovah is a ficticious compilation of OT gods dba as "THE Almighty
cameo-d - How concisely put! Is this absolutely brilliant statement your own? Mind if I borrow?
this usually gets the wheel moving again.. .
eventually a repair crew is sent to our car or wheel but they cannot fix the problem.
the interesting thing about the organization wheel is that we were told it was always moving ahead.
Excellent analogy, truthseeker.
For me, it felt more like a hamster wheel, with all that running, running, running. So glad I'm off for good!
so paragraph 11-13 yesterday discussed how lepers in jesus' day were outcasts.
they were required to call out "leper, leper" so people would stay away from them.
the next paragraph says that according to rabbinical sources, a religious leader even threw rocks at a leper to keep him away.
Good one, Bona Fide! I think your answer MIGHT have gotten a few brains musing at least.
Before I quit the meetings for good, I tried to work in a few comments such as yours. I also did a few talks that might have alerted some that I was not simply 'regurgitating' the pablum that was on offer that week, if they were even actually 'listening'. Let the one who has an ear hear (ha ha)! Unfortunately, I began feeling like a salmon swimming upstream. It seems to me that the rank and file are prepared only to hear someone regurgitate; other than that, some radar goes off whereby their brain shuts down and the judging of that person as being 'unspiritual' starts...it is only now, now that I am out of the 'cancer' that I can truly see just how brainwashed the whole bunch is - totally shut off from reality! A comment like yours, one would hope, would at least get anyone with a functioning brain starting to think CRITICALLY! Good for you!
I could only do it for about six months. After that, I gave up and quit going to the meetings at all. Just listening to the bs in the rags being read from the platform became unbearable...but listening to the formulaic answers from the seats was even worse and to think I had been doing the same for years on end...it actually turned to revulsion. The more heads that wake up, the better, so kudos to you for having the guts to speak up! (and even drag yourself to the KH in the first place)
i've mentioned this to a few jwd friends but haven't posted it.
on september 1, 2008 me and my wife (who posts here as 'amber rose') had a baby boy.
just wanted to share!
He's absolutely beautiful! Congratulations!
buddy miles, may he rest in peace.
i like the band of gypsys version, but i prefer the later version he did with the buddy miles express.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7vgdqwfc9g&feature=related.
HOCUS POCUS by FOCUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cpxFGKOnE4&feature=related -
Not the original, but a kick-ass 13 year old girl's drum solo - NOTHING BEATS THE ORIGINAL but no UTUBE vid of it
the past 15 years or so have seen incredible "advances" in the new light agenda of the wts.. there have been changes in the generation (twice!
), sheep and goats, celestial phenomena, opening up the way to heaven (closed since 1935), the "composite sign", "blood fractions", along with major organizational changes, such as paperbacks, once monthly awake!
's, cult edition of the wt, along with the reduction of the meeting nights and change to the po nomenclature becoming the coboe (ssdd).... some of these changes have been foreseen by posters here on jwd, or were suggested by information in apostates recomended reading lists (i.e.
I may be in the minority here, but I think the next noolite is not going to come from the WBTS at all.
This may be just my hope, but I think the real new light may just come from the Vatican archives...once some of the secret stuff begins to be released to the public - also, I believe there will be some truly enlightening archeological/historical discoveries that may cause a huge religious paradigm shift. I mean, with the many series' on the History Channel a la Da Vinci Code etc. there will be a serious rethinking of the whole literalness and reliability of the Bible itself.
There is already a significant movement afoot in 'mainstream' Christianity a la Bishop John Shelby Spong and eventually, as that shift increasingly takes hold, the Witnesses themselves will be seen to be completely 'out of touch' and probably lumped in with all the other backward religious literalists and FUNDAMENTALISTS who will become increasingly marginalized. All this will be 'SPEEDED UP IN ITS OWN TIME!'
so tonight the congregation discussed the front page of the october km -the new meeting schedule.
straight away it was emphasized it was not because of high gas prices that the meetings were being reduced.
it was pointed out that in parts of the world the brothers do not have cars so it was not high gas prices.
Steve C: EXPONENTIALLY! I like that word...
Anyhow, a friend visited me recently, slightly agog at the new condensed book study arrangement saying it was 'lightening the load' for all in the congregation, who were most all just 'hanging on by a thread'. (friend's actual words) This is from a very "IN" Witness, so I guess it's true - all of them are SICK TO DEATH of the HEAVY BURDENS that the antitypical Pharisees (hounders et al) are continuously placing on them - I think Jesus aptly prophesied about them when he said "they bind up heavy loads" Matthew 23:4
The rank and file, all waiting desperately for the much ballyhooed END in this race to the finish, just want to throw off every weight, as Paul said, and it seems these endless meetings about nothing are more like a weight to be carried than a refreshing pat on the back of encouragement to continue....
so tonight the congregation discussed the front page of the october km -the new meeting schedule.
straight away it was emphasized it was not because of high gas prices that the meetings were being reduced.
it was pointed out that in parts of the world the brothers do not have cars so it was not high gas prices.
Didn't JESUS say: 'My yoke is kindly and my load is light?'
And now, the FDS has the gall to say (in that priceless scan of a letter) that THEY HAVE DECIDED to lighten the load of the rank and file? First off, it's not their load to lighten and anyhow, if Jesus' load is so light, why the hell have THEY MADE IT such a BURDEN?
They really have put themselves in Jesus' place...shame on them.
i'm sure you're gonna start hearing that a lot now.
Just noted in another thread that the Nov 15 WT apparently states that the 'END OF THE PRESENT SYSTEM OF THINGS is imminent.' System of things is a unique JW translation as far as I know - I don't think there's another Bible out there that uses that particular phraseology.
So is the END of 'the present system of things' the same as the GT or Armageddon? Notice they didn't say Armageddon is 'imminent'.
Since this article has appeared, I hear many repeating that particular line with great relish - "the GB have never said this in so many words" is what I have heard. IMMINENT is apparently the new buzzword. No longer 'round the corner'...
i'm sure you're gonna start hearing that a lot now.
HELL NO! Isn't it supposed to come as a 'thief in the night', 'at a time you do not think it to be so'?
I'm going to wait until all this excitement dies down, markets stabilize, everyone sitting under their own vine and fig tree as it were because then no one will be expecting it and that is when it will take place!
GEEZ, I mean there's a scripture for this scenario, a scripture for the peace and security scenario, a scripture for the 'signs' scenario, and a scripture for the misleading shysters crying WOLF scenario - take your pick!